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| Feetosopher |
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4622 Member No.: 2618 Joined: 22-July 12 |
Dear friend, many thanks indeed for your ideas, and for the appreciation of my work!!! I have proposed Hal other possible forms of cooperation between us (besides, or in alternative to, me being a regular contributor to Toes-In-Action). The opening of a dedicated section for my pictures at Toes-In-Action was among my proposals, and also the inclusion of my nude pictures & videos in Toes-In-Action and/or in Hal's clips4sale store. Hal has always replied that he is happy with Toes-In-Action as it is, and I never insisted. I am friends with Hal, I have deep respect and admiration for him. Toes-In-Action is his creation, and I would NEVER try to interfere with his strategies. If I want to run things my way, I must launch one or more websites of mine. Whether this makes sense from a commercial standpoint, and how should this be done practically.. well, it's exactly what I am trying to understand here with your help!!! So many thanks again!!! Cheers!!! -------------------- |
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| Feetosopher |
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4622 Member No.: 2618 Joined: 22-July 12 |
Dear Shifter, you've made my day with this comment.. thank you so much!!! Your suggestion is probably the least risky one; it would leave all the admirers of my non-nude stuff free of enjoying it at Toes-In-Action (and I guess that also Hal would be happier.. as I would not start competing with him.. One of my great fears in starting a pay website focusing on non-nude pictures only is that it might be seen by many as a "poor people's clone" of City Feet or Toes-In-Action, and that very few would actually be willing to spend 15-20$ per month to join it. I cannot frankly compete with City Feet or TIA: they have been around for over 10 years. Plus, it's a niche market, numbers are tiny, and some "latecomer" sites have already been forced to close for lack of subscribers. You said it.. dirty-soled nude girls are a Feetosopher's specialty.. so let's keep on delivering!!! Many thanks indeed for all the support you have given to my BAREFOOT URBAN NUDITY project.. I hope that you will be among my customers also in the future!!! Best wishes from Italy!!! -------------------- |
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| nudescalze |
Posted on Feb 2 2013, 10:18 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 176 Member No.: 2654 Joined: 28-September 12 |
Dear Feetosopher! The important thing is that you do not stop to make and to sell your fantastic photographs and videos of barefoot girls nude in the city! One site or two sites is not important! I will buy your material FOREVER! YOU ARE THE BEST! :-)
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| DG2001 |
Posted on Feb 2 2013, 06:28 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 2671 Member No.: 4 Joined: 3-February 04 |
Dear Feetosopher, amico mio:
My humble opinion: keep on collaborating with Hal, you two have discovered and shared lots of barefoot beauties. And have a site of your own, with non-nude barefoot girls... it's more probable that you find girls willing to have naked feet than her whole body naked :-) All the best, and keep on fighting! -------------------- Regards
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| Clipper |
Posted on Feb 2 2013, 06:33 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 383 Member No.: 1507 Joined: 12-December 08 |
Be present that continuing with BAREFOOT URBAN NUDITY will mean to have the competition of thousands of porn sites (tens of thousands).
Ask as you want,but substantially BAREFOOT URBAN NUDITY is a porn type site,and this environment,the dirty soles became a secondary aspect... Dirty hard soled, not nude, girls picture will be much more original,of niche...ok this site and toes in action can in the future competing with you,but how many site of this type are present on the web now : 2/3 maybe 5... there is enough beacon for all (or none for no one...). In any case good luck with your next activity |
| Feetosopher |
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4622 Member No.: 2618 Joined: 22-July 12 |
DG, amigo querido.. many thanks for expressing your honest thoughts!!! I am increasingly in favor of having separate websites for the two projects (and most of the advice I have received so far goes in the same direction). I am friends with Hal, so my cooperation with Toes-In-Action will last until he decides otherwise, don't worry. This said, sure it's much easier to find girls who limit themselves to bare their feet... but to me - sorry, I must be honest - it's much more exciting to shoot BAREFOOT & NAKED girls, than to shoot girls who are simply barefoot.. But everyone has the right to blow his/her own trumpet.. and you are particularly smart at blowing yours.. Muchas gracias again, all the best from Italy!!! -------------------- |
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| dude |
Posted on Feb 2 2013, 07:30 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 330 Member No.: 1568 Joined: 8-April 09 |
Keep cooperating with Hal. You've done some photo shoots with Hal's models before, right? Yeah, I'd like you to keep doing that when you can, as well as keep sending Hal your own model shots. You guys work well together.
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| Feetosopher |
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4622 Member No.: 2618 Joined: 22-July 12 |
Dear Clipper, first of all you don't have to fear.. I am not gonna quit taking clothed pictures of sexy barefoot girls, and turn to taking nude pictures of girls wearing shoes!!! I COULD NEVER SHOOT A WOMAN WEARING SHOES, IT'S A HUGE TURN-OFF TO ME!!! Plus, I'll probably be launching a website on my own with clothed barefoot girls only.. even if I am not that convinced by your reasoning.. do you really think that I can compete with giants like Toes-In-Action or City Feet??? OK, my pictures are maybe more "artistic", more "glamorous" than theirs, but they have been around for over 10 years, and can offer a huge amount of quality material.. so there might be room enough for them, but not for my website. Anyway, I am basically a curious, stubborn and crazy guy, so I think I am gonna try... About my BAREFOOT URBAN NUDITY project.. it seems that you are not very familiar with it: people who have bought my stuff can tell you that BARE FEET & HARD, DIRTY SOLES ARE NOT AT ALL SECONDARY in the project!!! Plus I am not competing with thousands of porn sites: public flashing is a very specific niche, there are probably less than 20 websites focusing on it, and NO WEBSITE - to my knowledge at least - operates with REAL-LIFE EXHIBITIONIST FEMALE BAREFOOTERS as models!!! This is an EXCLUSIVE FEATURE of my BAREFOOT URBAN NUDITY project!!! As for posting some of my classics here.. I just want to experiment my new Photobucket account.. and see how it works.. what about a couple of snaps of gorgeous barefoot martial arts enthusiast AIKO??? ![]() Let me insist.. if AIKO was BAREFOOT & NAKED in the picture below, it'd be even better!!! ![]() Many thanks for your thoughts, anyway.. cheers!!! -------------------- |
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| Feetosopher |
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4622 Member No.: 2618 Joined: 22-July 12 |
Many thanks for your input, sir!!! Should I conclude that you suggest me not to open any website on my own, and just stick to supplying Toes-In-Action? Well, sure it'd be the easiest thing to do, but: 1) I love challenges. 2) From a purely commercial standpoint, I am really going nowhere in this way... or do you think that Hal is paying me thousands of bucks every month??? Anyway, don't fear.. my cooperation with Toes-In-Action will continue as long as Hal decides otherwise. Many thanks again, cheers!!! -------------------- |
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| barefootfootseeker |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 809 Member No.: 2710 Joined: 5-December 12 |
One website, two websites, do what you want but.. 1) Keep cooperating with Toes-In-Action. I am pretty sure that Hal is willing to help you. You two "compete" only for the barefooting/dirty soles stuff, but TIA covers a much wider spectrum of sub-genres than you. Plus, if Hal continues to have your pics on TIA, I guess he will not consider your website a menace. 2) DO NOT QUIT. It's only a matter of being motivated and trying your best to succeed. Come on... how many in the industry can take pictures like the two of Aiko you have posted? I am sure that there are still folks around who can appreciate this, and that are happy to PAY FOR THIS. We'll see how many these folks are, but if you don't try, you will never understand your true business potential!!! GO FISHING WITH YOU? YOU CAN SHOVE THAT DAMN FISHING ROD UP YOUR... |
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| shifter |
Posted on Feb 3 2013, 12:07 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1086 Member No.: 1877 Joined: 2-October 10 |
Dear Feetosopher.
If you like to do big buisness your are obviously in the wrong market, but you already know that. You dont take those pictures and videos because you want to make money, but because you Love to do that. I think the real question for you is not if you would continue to take pictures and videos, but if you want to share themwith us, or to keep them for yourself. I think there is not such a competition as you think there is, our at least what you wrote on a couple of threads. The majority of visitors and readers are not willing to pay for any of those sites anyway, they are happy with the free stuff thats online and thats it.. but for some of us, like me, those free stuff is not satisfying enough, and i´m happy and willing to pay for content that i like and love to watch and look at, and also see it as respect and confirmation to those content makers. I´m a regular member of various websites, i regulary purchase videos from clip4sale amateurs and i´m totally happy with it, to me there is no question about it which one i buy or not, if i like the content i´m gonna buy it, perhaps not this week if i already purchased over my limit, but then i´m gonna buy it the week after. But i also know i´m a small minority , but for me its so important to support content makers like you. Everbody invest lots of money in their hobbys, some obuy dvds or music, some spend lots of money in cars, some others collects stamps or even some collects orchids, or some collects guitars. some invenst in their photography and video equipment etc. Beeing "Feetosopher" is your hobby, your 2nd life, dont give up, you do such a good work, even if only some of us appreciates them properly, but we do!! that you only got 16 downloads for Cecilias Video in the Roman Castle is a shame but be patient, i predict you, once you got your own clip4sale site, and the content is online for a long period of time, it multiplys.. i bet you already have a huge collection of pictures and videos you took that you can use as back-catalog You also must promote your stuff more on the web. make small videos on youtube, youporn, etc.. also on different amateur and exhibitions boards, foot-fetish boards, you gotta need to flood them But on youtube, and those other video channels, when you upload your short clips, the most important is that you TAG them correctly, so that many people gonna find or stumble accross them, and then you must have the link to your Clips4sale site clearly visible, on every page, right below the video, so that those watcher can easily and fast jump to your site. I really love the pictures of Aiko you have posted here, the shot with the dirty foot next to hear face. lovely! I really wish you could make some videos of girls smoking cigarettes with their dirty feet, and her lips touching her sole, or even better if a girl licks her own dirty soles or the dirty soles from another girl. Keep up the good work shifter |
| Feetosopher |
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4622 Member No.: 2618 Joined: 22-July 12 |
Dear Shifter... again, you have perfectly got all the points. Yes, I could never quit taking pictures of beautiful barefoot women, clothed or nude: I really need it to feel alive!!! My "respectable" job during the week is just to survive (and to finance my photographic projects!!! Many thanks indeed for all your suggestions on how to better promote my material on internet!!! I must definitely improve the visibility of my projects on the web, and to do so I can only share stuff of mine in the right places on a regular basis, and do it smartly. I have started making retail sales of my material (exactly the clips you bought) only in August 2012, through my cooperation with Urban Candy Store. Before I had only been supplying Toes-In-Action and Paris Barefoot Girls (a cool French site which sadly went offline some time ago). So I am rather new at promoting my stuff on the web.. sure I have a lot to learn, and a lot to do!!! I am increasingly determined to launch one or more pay websites and/or online video stores within the next months, for both my nude and non-nude material. If I don't do it, I will never understand my true commercial potential, and I will never know the actual size of the niche I have operated in since 2004!!! Many thanks again for all the support you have given to my projects. If all my fans were like you, I would happily make a living as THE FEETOSOPHER, without eating shit five days a week in a nondescript office building. Sadly the reality - as you said - is quite different, and I have to cope with it. To help you wait for my videos of girls smoking cigarettes with their dirty feet, and their lips touching their soles (I have already put this in my plans for this year's sessions!!! -------------------- |
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| prospector |
Posted on Feb 4 2013, 05:11 PM
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Nope, I would join either way, I was just expressing a personal preference. You do great work, clothes on or off, and it would be a shame if you couldn't find a way to share your talents going forwards. |
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4622 Member No.: 2618 Joined: 22-July 12 |
Oh, great to know, this gives me hope for my future projects, even if I think that I will go for 2 dedicated websites (non-nude / nude) in the end. Many thanks again for your appreciation of my work!!! -------------------- |
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4622 Member No.: 2618 Joined: 22-July 12 |
My friends, I see that (for now at least) the camp is roughly split 50%-50% between supporters of a "mixed content" website (nude & non-nude material combined), and supporters of a "clothed only" website.
What do you think of the following solution? 2 dedicated websites, one focusing on non-nude material only, one focusing on nude material only. People subscribing to both sites will benefit from an ultra-discounted monthly rate for combined membership. PLEASE LET ME KNOW YOUR OPINION!!! Cheers from Italy!!! -------------------- |
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